Amy Walter:

Right.

Well, where Senator Van Hollen is, is where so many Democratic — especially Democratic voters, are sitting today, which is they are frustrated with what they see is ineffective and inadequate response to Donald Trump and many of the actions that he’s taken.

When you hear from Gavin Newsom, what he’s saying, the governor of California, is, look, just talk about the economy. That’s where we’re winning. Donald Trump’s numbers are really bad on the economy. They’re good on immigration.

But the whole issue is really how you ask the question on immigration and where the fight ultimately — what the fight ultimately ends up being about. If you ask voters, do you think Donald Trump’s doing a good job on the economy (sic), generally, yes, he gets positive marks there, much higher than he is getting right now in the economy.

But when you ask specifically about some of the things either that he’s doing or saying that he’s doing, including one that asks the question, do you think that he should be able to deport people if a court order tells him to stop it, overwhelming majority say, no, he shouldn’t be allowed to do that.

So the question now is where this fight is happening. Is it happening about the rule of law, where Democrats would like it to be? Or is it where Donald Trump thinks he is the strongest, believes he has a mandate, which is it’s going to be about being able to deport criminals, and in the election in 2020 — or 2024, this was the issue that constantly brought me back into contention.

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